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AOS change 997.1 C2




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I've changed my AOS over the week end. I've attached a file describing my experience, in case you decide to change yours. Hope this helps.
AOS change 2005 Porsche 911
After researching, I couldn't find any DIY for 997.1 model. The one thread found for the 997.1 on Renntech was for the S model (AOS was located in a very different spot-on the right behind the AC compressor). On my 2005 911 C2 the AOS is on the driver side in front of the intake manifold (same side as 996 models). I've found a couple of DIY for the 996s and I decided I wanted to try it myself. I want to say from the beginning, this was quite a difficult job due to the very limited space you have in the engine bay. Of note, I did not lowered the engine, I did not remove the driving belt, alternator or coolant tank. So, here are the steps:
1. Air filter box removal.
2. In preparation for Throttle Body(TB) and intake manifold removal, disconnection of several electrical plugs and hoses placed in front of the driver side air intake manifold and alternator(3 electrical connectors, a thin vacuum line, and 3 coolant lines). I've covered the plugs with painter's tape to keep them dust free and the coolant hoses with saran wrap and elastic bands to avoid coolant leak. Of note, before disconnecting the coolant hoses, I loosened the coolant tank cap to relieve the pressure.
Here is a picture with the disconnection points(arrow marks the spot).

3. TB removal: I removed the TB and distributor pipe (the big plastic pipe the TB is connected) in one piece(did not separate them). To do that, I loosened the clamps that link the distributor pipe to the intake manifold(2 on each side). After that, I pushed the left rubber collar towards the left intake manifold. The right rubber collar I kept it on the distributor pipe. The rubber collars are quite difficult to push around but once you pushed them as much as they go you can remove the TB and distributor pipe in one piece(hence no need to have a new seal for TB).
After TB/distributor pipe removal.in the back is the tuning pipe(mark the position before removal).

4. Removal of the big plastic tube behind the distributor pipe (tuning pipe). I used the same method as before when removing the distributor pipe. Loosened clamps and pushed the rubber collars toward the air intakes (left and right) and removed the tuning pipe. Care must be taken to preserve the vacuum hose attached to the back of the tuning pipe (it is connected to a piece that sits on the intake manifold right above the alternator-I unscrewed it and put it aside along with the tuning pipe; be careful not to lose a plastic insert that sits between the intake manifold and the little vacuum piece). Very important, before removing the tuning pipe, draw a line from the air intake manifold to the tuning pipe to be sure that you can mount it in the same position/orientation. I covered the two big holes towards the right intake manifold with a couple of rugs for protection.
5. Left air intake manifold removal. And the fun begins! There are 6 screws that need to be removed and as you imagine it will get increasingly difficult to get to them(the one furthest away seems impossible to get out). The space is extremely limited and the screw is located in a tiny space between AOS and intake manifold. I could not put a socket on it (hitting the AOS). The only way I could do It was with a 5/16" ratcheting wrench. This was the most difficult part(so far). When the last screw is out you can maneuver the manifold out, and finally you can see the AOS. Before I moved on, I covered the intake manifold holes with a lint free rug(imagine dropping something down there!).

6. The AOS is hold on top of the engine with 2 screws. There was no way I could access the AOS from under the car (like in the 996 DIY). The one in the back of the AOS is easy to feel and remove(I used the same 5/16'ratcheting wrench). The one in front was a different story. It was in a tiny space, under a thick wire and very difficult to get to it. I had to dive with both hands in the engine bay, feel it with the right hand, lift the wire and with the left hand come with the 5/16" wrench on it. It took a while(I was getting tired at this point) but I've got it. Now the AOs was hold down by the hose connectors. I cut the one that comes from the AOS bottom and bends 90 degrees to go into the engine(there was no way I could release the very difficult snap on clamps Porsche is using for its hoses). The 997 AOS is different than the 996 one. When I ordered my AOS from Pelican parts, I also ordered a new 90 degree connector(along with 3 intake manifold gaskets and a couple of screw type clamps). After I cut the 90 degree hose I could mobilize the AOS from the engine(now connected by 4 hoses). Carefully I pulled it towards the back of the car and disconnect the hoses(some may still have some residual coolant in them). So, finally half of the work is done!
Pic of engine bay after AOS was out.

7. Mounting the new AOS was next. First, I've loaded 2 screw type hose clamps on the 90 degree hose that goes at the bottom of the AOS into the engine and mounted it to the engine. Next, I've taken the AOS, connect the big hose that goes on the base(left bottom). And fiddled with this assembly, trying to get it into the engine hole and the other hole of the 90 degree hose. It took a while, of course, but it can be done. Another pain was to tighten the clamps on the 90 degree hose, but again with perseverance it can be done. Next, the screw behind the AOS (do not tighten it yet) was a breeze. Now the front one was a different story. Remember it goes into a hole under a wire in a tiny space. I loaded the screw on a socket (using some painter's tape to hold it) and again diving with both hand deep into the engine bay I managed to find the hole. After the screw was in the hole I start to jiggle the AOS around(it was not tightened in the back) and hand tightened the front screw. Of note, the AOS is mounted slightly tilted on the engine towards the driver's side. This makes more difficult to find the right path for the screw. After the front screw was on the right path I tightened both back and front one. At the end I've connected the rest of the hoses on top of the AOS.
8. Mounting back the air intake manifold. Before that I've cleaned the manifold, tuning pipe, distributor pipe and TB with TB cleaner. I've mounted the gaskets and Very Important, preload the screw that goes towards the front of the car before attempting to position the manifold. After orienting the manifold into the position, before I attempted to fit the foremost(and most difficult ) screw I mounted the screw at the back of the manifold(closer to rear of the car) but not tightened it yet. Now I had a fixed screw(the one closer to the rear of the car) and I could move the manifold on a fixed path. I moved the manifold on the fixed path in small increments until the screw fell into its place. Next I had to reach back and hand screw it (finger screwed it) until I had enough clearance to slip the 5/16" and tightened it a little. Now, I removed the screw close to the rear of the engine and I could pivot the manifold a little, enough to make the install of the tuning pipe easier. Make sure you observe the marking you made before removing it, to have it in the same position. Do not tighten the clamps yet. Now install the remaining 5 screws for the intake manifold. Keep in mind that the manifold is plastic, so do not over tighten. Now you can tighten the clamps of the tuning pipe. Make sure there are no gaps between the tuning pipe and the manifold (the engine wont run -will start and die right away-believe me I found out the hard way).
9. Now, time to put back the TB/distributor pipe assembly. I've loaded the left rubber sleeve on the left manifold and the right one on the distributor pipe. Do not forget to preload the hose clamps…Put back the screw that holds the TB to the servo pump.
10. The last steps… connect the electrical plugs and the coolant hoses. Have fun with the Porsche hose clamps!
11. Time to put back the air box and…
12. Start the engine!!!
13. Congratulation! You did it!!
Important to have: a magnetic pick up tool and a swivel mirror to see around the corners in the engine bay along with the 5/16" ratcheting wrench.





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Details to replace spring



Here is how you replace the spring in the center console on a 2006 997S. The cost of the part was 87 cents. Here is a picture of the part.

You remove eight torx screws to get the cover off. This is the cover off.

Here is the cover.

There were two different length screws but it does not matter where they go.
Next you release tension on the spring. I have a torx socket resting on the spring release.

The last step is to pull the hinge pin out. I used a vice grip and it worked real nice.

Replace the spring and reassemble.
This is a very easy task with a difficulty index of 1.
I replaced the spring because the console door would rattle over bumps. The new spring works like a champ.
Paul[/

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How to Replace.



Here is how I replaced the micro-switch. Here is a picture of the switch.

Here is the door.

Use a torx socket to remove the handle.

Remove the clip near the speaker. You can grab it and pull it out.

This picture shows the torx bolt inside the removed clip.

Now remove the clip on the end of the door. You can see another torx bolt.

This shows the clip behind the door handle. You can see that I damaged it a little by using
a screwdriver to pry it out. You can just push it and it will pop out.

Now remove the mirror control. Start at the bottom. The top slides into a hinge.

The last torx socket is located at the grab handle. You can see my thumb holding up the
clip and a torx socket with an extension is in the door.

No we see the interior off the door. Pry a litlle bit around the entire door until it snaps free. Then
release a few electric items and a door pin.

Here is the door with the interior off. You next want to undo about 9 to 10 torx bolts
that hold the door cover on.

Here is a clip I removed on the end of the door but you do not need to do this.

Now you want to connect the electrical, the battery, and roll the window up. Then dis-connect
the battery and the electrical. Reach into the door and undo two 10mm nuts. This will release
the exterior handle. working from inside and outside, you can work the handle partly out.

Here is a close up of the switch. You pry out the old one and install a new one and connect
up the electrical.

This picture shows the window up. It also shows the door plate undone. I had no reason
to remove the door plate.

The last picture shows the door back plate installed.

Before you install the interior piece I found it easier to connect the electrical and battery and
roll the window down. I then dis-connected the battery before I installed the interior piece.
I found this project to be very hard and would not recommend this project to anyone
who has not replaced a door window. It took me about two hours so it is not a
long project.
The bottom line is, my window problem was not solved and I will be looking into the lock
switch next.
Paul[/

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How to replace on 997.1 2005 and 2006 years models, the infamous Starter and Alternator cable that prevents cranking up the engine when hot.



Folks,

Thanks to Equinox I managed to replace the infamous alternator/Starter cable on my 2006 C4S this past weekend. It took me about 5 hours, taking my time, exploring and cleaning up parts. It is a hell of a job, and I would not recommend this to anyone who has never entertained serious mechanical work on a car.

Equinox in his great diary, gave a tons of details on that delicate procedure. I will not repeat what he explained and simply present my way of approaching the replacement by concentrating solely on the cable and not on the Air/Oil Separator (AOS). Also, my car required some slightly different tools sizes and I will indicate that as well.

Thus, this is written as a tribute to Equinox, a great Porsche mechanic and I will be eternally grateful for a lot of his insights. I have used 3 or 4 of Equinox's pictures and I hope he will not mind it too much.

The replacement cable can be obtained from Suncoast or your local stealer for the meager (for a Porsche part...) $100.00. Porsche must feel really bad, to make it so cheap.

1) First step is to place the rear wheels of your Porsche on ramps or use jack-stands to raise the rear wheels. Of course, use the handbrake and place the gearbox in park or in 1st gear (all wheel drive) and block your front wheels. I like the plastic ramps, the heavy duty ones, purchased at the local Auto Zone shop. The clearance is tight when I crawl under the car with my slider but I feel better and safer than placing the car on jack-stands.

2) Disconnect the battery and isolate the ground terminal.



Now that the battery is no longer connected, it may be a good idea to prevent the full closure of the front trunk. A mishap can happen and will complicate the procedure. I use one of my wife's pajama as the cotton fabric is very soft.



3) Now, we can move to the back of the car. I like my ease and comfort, and honestly unless you have very long arms and do not mind smashing your face against the engine lid, it is more comfortable to simply remove it. Use 10 mm open and closed wrenches for that purpose. The most difficult thing is to part the connector located on the right side of the car, behind the rear right tail light, in the engine compartment. The pig tail is very short and really difficult to reach and to uncouple. The gas spring is removed after taking the air filter away, by removing the half circle shaped piece of steel on the chassis side, with a small flat screwdriver. Be careful not to loose it.

Achtung!!!! The lid is really heavy and you may want to be careful when lifting it.



4) Now is the time to remove the air filter (actually, it had to be done first, before removing the lid) and the serpentine belt and this has been covered in another thread and thus will not be repeated here. For details see http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/997/268139-3-8-s-how-replace-air-filter-belt-less-than-one-hour.html

The following picture is to remind the weak brains (like mine) how to re-assemble the serpentine belt. It is just odd how quickly we forget.... at our age.



5) First remove the throttle body and the plenum. For that, you will need an E12 socket and your favorite 7 mm closed wrench (I do not like screwdrivers on the hose clamps). Carefully, disconnect the servo connector on top of the throttle body and remove all four E12 bolts. Store preciously the body in a safe place. Now is a good time to clean it and verify that there is no oil on it. Mine was very dry, indicating a good working AOS. I did not try to push the flap open and resisted the curiosity. You can see on both sides, anyway. Then, loosen up the four hose clamps holding the plenum, with your 7 mm wrench. Push the rubber rings on each side, towards the manifolds so that the plenum in the middle can be easily removed. Before pulling like an animal, slide your hand underneath and behind and verify that there is nothing else attached to the rubber plenum. My C4S 2006 had nothing and it was very straight forward.



6) Using your slimmest fingers, turn the collar of the steering pump filler box counter clockwise. It is hard to reach. It should unlock and you just have to pull the whole steering fluid box up to remove it. Doing so will spill some of the steering oil (that precious Pentosin, hard to find in regular auto shops) on your engine. It may be a good idea to have a rag handy when doing that maneuver. Now things are getting clearer..... It is also a good idea to place some kind of cap on top of the steering pump opening. If something falls into it, it is going to ruin your day. I use shrink wrap and two rubber bands from my Newspapers carrier.



7) Let's gain as much room as possible and remove as many pipes and wires from the middle. The most irritating hose is the oil filler neck: it is always in the middle of what you do. We are now going to work on the alternator.



Using an E-16 socket remove the lower left bolt holding the alternator. Then remove the top right bolt coupled with a pulley. At this stage the alternator is free and you can disconnect the main wire with a 13 mm socket and carefully remove the lower electrical connector (a light squeeze should do it). It may be necessary to pry carefully the alternator out of the holder using a large screwdriver. Pry near the ends of the alternator and not in the middle. Store the alternator with your throttle body, far away from the war zone..... These are very expensive parts and you do not want to damage them.

Without the alternator, there is more room as shown below:



Cool Now is the time to get to the starter:



Using your mighty strength, pull on the rubber boot covering the two cables. Then, and this is very important, disconnect the two plastic tubes located on the left side of the AOS box. Using your steel fingers, press real hard on the clips and pull carefully the two tubes out. These tubes will prevent you from gaining access to the starter and may get damaged when you try to remove the 13 mm nut from the starter. I used a 13 mm wrench to unlock the starter nut.



Re-install the nut on the starter. At least this is one that you will not loose. Technically, the alternator cable could be pulled from underneath the car and all would be fine. But it is never so easy in the Porsche realm. Those @#$%^ of German engineers have installed one of their bullet proof clip right behind the AOS box. That clip holds the cable to the plastic gutter/channel routing all electrical connections to and through the engine. Your finger tips can touch it, you can guess it is there, but you cannot do anything about it. It took me half an hour of negotiations in an attempt to open it and I had a sample of the clip to study, as two are provided with the replacement cable. Finally, a sharp chisel and a good whack took care of the bloody part. The reason for all these troubles was that I did not want to go to the next step....and I should have....

9) Removing the A/C compressor unit. That one is tricky and without Equinox I would have given up. The A/C unit holds by two E-12 bolts and a very secret E-14 bolt behind the can, absolutely invisible from any sides of the car. You have to know that it is there and find it. It is an act of faith, pure blind faith. The following pictures were taken by Equinox and depicts the evil genius of the German engineers:



This bolt is reached as shown below, and is located on the left side of the A/C compressor, towards the top of the can.



You will need a wobble (+/- 6 degrees) extension with your E-14 female torx attached to it. I use Facom for most of my tools and Facom sells such 3/8 inch extension for 12 Euros or about $15.00. It is a must have. Craftsman and others have this wobble extension, I am sure.

You will also need need to disconnect the compressor wire (long brown wire on the top) from the harness. The connector is located on the right manifold, near the electrical channel and looks like a small clear plastic box with a single connector in it. The wire goes through the first arch of the right manifold.

After pulling out carefully the compressor, let it rest on the side of the rear tail light. The lines are flexible enough that you can move it around. At this stage, you can feel the infamous clip that is holding the cable. The picture below taken by Equinox show the ugly clip, since Equinox removed the AOS box. In our case, the AOS is still there, untouched. By the way, you will not be able to remove the A/C compressor, if any length of the large E-14 Torx bolt is still in its hole. With tiny fingers, and a lot of patience, you have to lift that big bolt (it is impossible to remove it, it is too long) out of its location.




10) Let's back up a little bit and admire the disaster: there sits your $90K prize, completely hacked and in pieces..... A sinking feeling starts to grow in your stomach and your brain remembers the 800 number of AAA. They will have to come with a bed truck to take it to the nearest Porsche dealer..... The neighbors will be laughing and you will be the fool on the block. What a mess......



Since you are now kneeling on the floor with your dirty hands joined in supplication, let's take advantage of that position to fall completely on the ground and crawl under the car like a worm to discover the underworld:



Before diving, in a survival reflex, your hands will have grabbed a TORX 20 screwdriver, a 10 mm and a 13 mm wrenches. Sliding on your back, remove the four Torx-20 screws holding the tray. They are recessed and look like this:



Remove the tray under the engine and slide it to the side. Despite the dust and soot falling on your face and into your eyes, you now have a clear view of the other end of the cable, attached to the gear box:



Pry open the box (from underneath) and it will reveal the Connection between the infamous cable and the battery cable. Use a 13 mm wrench to remove the bolt:



The plastic box itself can be removed by taking off the two bolts located above it, with your 10 mm wrench.

Crawling towards the rear of the car, you still have to remove two more bolts of 10 mm: Below is the second bolt. The first one is very easy to find, if you follow the cable from the junction.



Once this is done and once you have managed to open the two clips holding the cable in the engine compartment (one is behind the AOS box, the second one is after the bend on the way down under), you can try pulling the cable from underneath. It is a good idea to put some tape around the Y of the starter end, in order to ease the extraction of the deceased part. Some help may be required (wife, girl friend, boy friend, ....etc). I find it easier to remove the cable from below, because of the plastic stiffeners used to clamp it to the gearbox.

Now is the time to take a break. Beer, food, nap or a hug with your sweetheart: You worked hard and you deserve a treat.

To install the new and improved cable, I found it easier to go back under the car and feed the cable up into the engine bay. Prior to this, I put some tape (or elastic bands) to keep the two ends of the Y together. Unless, you have some help on the receiving side, you are going to need a few trips back and forth between the surface and the underworld. The cable is stiff but can be bent to follow the plastic gutter/channel.

First, reconnect the big end to the starter, being careful about how you route the sucker. Make sure all flows harmoniously.
Then using a new clip, insert it to the plastic tab protruding next to where the cable disappear in the underworld. Close the clip and seal its fate.
You will remember that the second plastic tab behind the AOS was whacked brutally and thus is no longer usable. Instead, we will use wire ties. I installed 4 of them along the path of the cable. The trick is to make sure that the cable stays in the gutter/channel and never comes in contact to the metal parts of the engine.

Re-connect the two plastic hoses to the AOS. Let's not forget them as it will be very annoying later on.

When happy with the routing of the cable, push the rubber boot above the starter connection and grab your alternator. Struggle to re-install it. I ended up filing a little bit the top holder and that made my life so much easier. As you will see, the assembly is very tight, where the pulley and the bolt go. By Filing the holder on the engine and/or the soft metal side of the alternator, you create some extra play that allows you to insert the alternator in a much easier way. Now is a good time to reconnect the small and single wire at the bottom and the unused end of the new alternator cable (13 mm wrench). Use your E-16 Torx female socket to lock the whole assembly in place. Again, take your time and check the routing of the cables. Check twice, assemble once.

Next comes the re-assembly of the A/C compressor. Again, to re-insert, you will need to lift the E-14 long back bolt all the way up and make sure that the two front E-12 bolts line up fine. If they do, then just drop the E-14 rear bolt and it will fall in place in its hole. Then using your wobble extension and an E-14 socket, lock it in place. Finish with the two bolts in the front (E-12).
Of course, the brown wire will have been routed carefully and connected to its receptacle. Otherwise, the summer will be very hot in the ****pit of your 911.

Next comes the Steering Fluid tank. Just insert, and lock the ring clockwise.

Finally the plenum and the throttle body. You know what to do by now.

The serpentine belt is next. Again, a picture is provided for your comfort and peace of mind:



Then, we end up re-installing the air filter and resonator box. Et voila:



Clean up your hands, grab the ignition keys and jump on the seat: First turn, it growls!!!!!! Yeah......!!!!! Relief.

The engine Lid can be re-installed later on being careful to not scratch the paint. Insert the bolts and adjust the position of the lid before locking them with your 10 mm wrenches.

That concludes our session. I will report on the behavior when the engine is hot later on. First I need to find some Pentosin to refill to the prescribed level the steering fluid tank.

I hope you enjoyed this tutorial and will make good use of it. It seemed daunting at first, but I don't regret it and feel more confident now about tackling other engine related tasks. Not that I am looking for it.....

Yves

Ok, I ran a few errands today and cranked a few times the engine while hot. It works like a champ. Smooth and firm start, not the croaking noise of an agonizing asthmatic like I used to get after taking gas for instance. Definitely a major improvement for me and the peace of mind to know that if I have to restart the engine immediately, it will happen right away. Additional bonus: confidence in my skills to maintain the 997.... Hey that is important too.[/

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