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Jean-François Descarries a écrit:
1- Un championnat de 6 courses indépendant ?
2- Un championnat de pilotes ou de numéros ?
3- Gear ratio limite pour Plattsburgh svp ! ASE 5.43 ou moins ?

Merci !


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Jean-François Descarries a écrit:
1- Un championnat de 6 courses indépendant ? Combiné avec 2 fonds de points séparés
2- Un championnat de pilotes ou de numéros ? Règlement ANCA, championnat d'équipe.
3- Gear ratio limite pour Plattsburgh svp ! ASE 5.43 ou moins ? Même règle pour les 2 pistesMerci !

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Jean-François Descarries a écrit:
1- Un championnat de 6 courses indépendant ?
2- Un championnat de pilotes ou de numéros ?
3- Gear ratio limite pour Plattsburgh svp ! ASE 5.43 ou moins ?

Merci !


4-largeur des pneus: Même règles que nous
5-quel sorte de carburateur, Holly 4412

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Jean-François Descarries a écrit:
Peut-on courir que les 6 courses du master et être le champion du master?
non, pour être éligible au fond de points Masters, chaque pilote doit avoir participé à un minimum de 8 courses à leur pistes respectives

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Jean-François Descarries a écrit:
Donc, comment est déterminé le champion du master svp ?

voir réponse dans le message précédent

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Jean-François Descarries a écrit:
Excusez-moi, pilote ou équipe?

l'équipe. ¨Ca prend soit la voiture ou le pilote sur la piste, telq que spécifié dans nos procédures de courses.
Pas question d'une voiture et d'un pilote qui ne font pas partie de l'équipe. Ex.: la voiture et 14 avec le pilote du 14 avec le # 26 sur la voiture. Voir Art.25 CONDITIONS

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Quand on dit que l'on doit faire 8 courses à sa piste respective, ca veut dire que les 3 courses obligatoires à Plattsburgh n'en font pas parti, faut bien lire que ce n'est pas 8 courses de son championnat respectif ! Ai-je bien compris ? Piste pas championnat !

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Jean-François Descarries a écrit:
Quand on dit que l'on doit faire 8 courses à sa piste respective, ca veut dire que les 3 courses obligatoires à Plattsburgh n'en font pas parti, faut bien lire que ce n'est pas 8 courses de son championnat respectif ! Ai-je bien compris ? Piste pas championnat !


Tel que mentionné sur les documents qui ont été expédiés aux pilotes en décembre dernier, les Sportsman courent 9 courses à St-Eustache et 3 courses à Plattsburgh, pour un total de 12 comptant pour le championnat ASE (Masters inclus).
Pour être éligibles au fond de points ASE, ils devront avoir couru 10 des 12 courses comptant pour le championnat ASE.(80% des programmes)
Pour être éligibles au fond de points Masters, ils devront avoir couru 8 courses à St-Eustache (incluant les Masters de St-Eustache..

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Johnathan Schwemler a écrit:
So, if I'm reading this correctly, a team needs to race in 8 of the 11 races at ASE, plus the 3 races at Airborne to be awarded the Master points fund?


Not exactly, The championship ASE include 9 races at ASE and 3 races at Airborne, for a total of 12 races.
You are eligible to the ASE point fund if you do a minimum de 10 races of the 12. (80%)
You are eligible to the MASTERS point fund if you have participate at 8 races minimum at your local track (including Masters races)

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I'm still confused, and this doesn't seem clear to me yet, so I'll ask in a different way...

If I raced in 2 regular nights at ASE, 3 Masters at ASE and 3 Masters at Airborne, would I be entitled to the Masters points fund, if by some miracle I finished in the top 5 in points?

As I see it, because the 3 events at Airborne count towards ASE's final points, then they would count as ASE events participated in when referring to the Masters. Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Johnathan Schwemler a écrit:
I'm still confused, and this doesn't seem clear to me yet, so I'll ask in a different way...

If I raced in 2 regular nights at ASE, 3 Masters at ASE and 3 Masters at Airborne, would I be entitled to the Masters points fund, if by some miracle I finished in the top 5 in points?

As I see it, because the 3 events at Airborne count towards ASE's final points, then they would count as ASE events participated in when referring to the Masters. Please correct me if I am wrong.


You have to participate at 8 race at Autodrome St-Eustache to be eligible for the MASTERS point fund (total races at ASE is 9). If you don't have the minimum of 8 races, you can race in the MASTERS but you will not be eligible for the points fund.

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Yves Ladouceur a écrit:
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Quand on dit que l'on doit faire 8 courses à sa piste respective, ca veut dire que les 3 courses obligatoires à Plattsburgh n'en font pas parti, faut bien lire que ce n'est pas 8 courses de son championnat respectif ! Ai-je bien compris ? Piste pas championnat !


Tel que mentionné sur les documents qui ont été expédiés aux pilotes en décembre dernier, les Sportsman courent 9 courses à St-Eustache et 3 courses à Plattsburgh, pour un total de 12 comptant pour le championnat ASE (Masters inclus).
Pour être éligibles au fond de points ASE, ils devront avoir couru 10 des 12 courses comptant pour le championnat ASE.(80% des programmes)
Pour être éligibles au fond de points Masters, ils devront avoir couru 8 courses à St-Eustache (incluant les Masters de St-Eustache..


So my crew and I were in the garage talking about this tonight, and something still doesn't add up. There is only 11 events on the schedule I have in the garage, and you're saying that to be entitled to the Masters point fund a team must partake in 11 events, BUT they only need to do 80% of those same 11 races for the year end points fund. Even if there was one more date added, 80% of all the events is less than the minimum required to run for the Masters championship.

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Jean-François Descarries a écrit:
Quand on dit que l'on doit faire 8 courses à sa piste respective, ca veut dire que les 3 courses obligatoires à Plattsburgh n'en font pas parti, faut bien lire que ce n'est pas 8 courses de son championnat respectif ! Ai-je bien compris ? Piste pas championnat !


Tel que mentionné sur les documents qui ont été expédiés aux pilotes en décembre dernier, les Sportsman courent 9 courses à St-Eustache et 3 courses à Plattsburgh, pour un total de 12 comptant pour le championnat ASE (Masters inclus).
Pour être éligibles au fond de points ASE, ils devront avoir couru 10 des 12 courses comptant pour le championnat ASE.(80% des programmes)
Pour être éligibles au fond de points Masters, ils devront avoir couru 8 courses à St-Eustache (incluant les Masters de St-Eustache..


So my crew and I were in the garage talking about this tonight, and something still doesn't add up. There is only 11 events on the schedule I have in the garage, and you're saying that to be entitled to the Masters point fund a team must partake in 11 events, BUT they only need to do 80% of those same 11 races for the year end points fund. Even if there was one more date added, 80% of all the events is less than the minimum required to run for the Masters championship.


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Johnathan Schwemler a écrit:
and do cars registered to Airborne Speedway need to follow the same format for the Masters Series points fund?


Oui Monsieur

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Johnathan Schwemler a écrit:
Why must a points fund for a six race series have more attendance than the points fund for the complete 12 race season?



more "attendance"

Sorry, I don't understand....

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Yves Ladouceur a écrit:
Johnathan Schwemler a écrit:
Why must a points fund for a six race series have more attendance than the points fund for the complete 12 race season?



more "attendance"

Sorry, I don't understand....


80% of 12 is 9.6 races... the ASE Points Championship fund is based on competing in a minimum of 80% of the ASE schedule (including the 3 Airborne races)
11/12 races is 91.6%... or the equivalant of the ASE schedule a team must compete in to be eligible for the MASTERS Points Championship fund as you described earlier.

I tried converting it into french, but my friends couldn't write it so it would make sense.

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Can you win the MASTERS Championship and be precluded from the points fund? What do you win then, other than the maximum $4500 ($3900 for a part-time team) worth of race winnings (if you won all 6 events)?

Is the ANCA Best Buy Triple Crown Sport-Compact mini series doing the same thing?

It's confusing me because I've never come across this before... I had assumed that a six race series would be won by the team that scored the most points over those six races, not the team that raced in 91.6% of the races in the season AND had the most points over six races.

IF I could only run a partial schedule, the MASTERS would be the first six races I would choose. Isn't the whole idea to have six exciting and entertaining races for the fans because of the extra incentive of bonus cash for the teams?

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If a rookie driver races in the six MASTERS races, three at ASE and three at Airborne, are they still eligible for rookie of the year the following season? If no, why not?

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Yves Ladouceur a écrit:
Johnathan Schwemler a écrit:
and do cars registered to Airborne Speedway need to follow the same format for the Masters Series points fund?


Oui Monsieur


I just spoke with a representative from Airborne Speedway, and a friend has spoken with a different representative from Airborne Speedway, and things don't match up. The answers given by Airborne Speedway are the same, but do not match what I understand from the answers from ASE. I'm having a hard time figuring out why things don't make sense, if it's just me, or if it's the translation, or that there are two (or more) different stories.

Yves, if I thought it was just me that didn't understand I would speak to you personally, but I know of at least three others involved in the Sportsman division that are also having a hard time understanding.

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Johnathan Schwemler a écrit:
Yves Ladouceur a écrit:
Johnathan Schwemler a écrit:
and do cars registered to Airborne Speedway need to follow the same format for the Masters Series points fund?


Oui Monsieur


I just spoke with a representative from Airborne Speedway, and a friend has spoken with a different representative from Airborne Speedway, and things don't match up. The answers given by Airborne Speedway are the same, but do not match what I understand from the answers from ASE. I'm having a hard time figuring out why things don't make sense, if it's just me, or if it's the translation, or that there are two (or more) different stories.

Yves, if I thought it was just me that didn't understand I would speak to you personally, but I know of at least three others involved in the Sportsman division that are also having a hard time understanding.


I don't know to who you have speak.
We have speak to Mike Perrotte yesterday.
Will you be ready for the first MASTERS race ??

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Asking me questions about my plans for next season is just a way to avoid answering the real questions.

1) Are teams that are registered at Airborne Speedway required to participate in a minimum of 8 events at their local track to be eligible for a 6 race touring series (MASTERS) points fund purse? (You've answered, but right now there is still 4 different versions of this answer floating around)

2) Can a team win the MASTERS Championship based on points over 6 races, and not earn the full purse (race winnings and points fund) advertised? ($3900 to win 6 races by a part-time team, plus the $2000 for being the MASTERS Champion)

3) Isn't the whole idea of having the MASTERS Series to excite and entertain fans by providing the extra incentive of bonus money to teams?

4) If a rookie driver registered to ASE participates in ONLY the 6 MASTERS Series Races (3 at ASE) would they lose their eligibility to the 2013 ASE Rookie of the Year? (the previous rule was the participation in 5 races solely at ASE)

5) Why is it that to earn the points fund money from the 1/2 season, 6 race MASTERS Series that a team needs to participate in 91.6% of the full 12 race season at ASE, but to earn the points fund money for the 12 race season they are only required to participate in 80% or 9.6 of the 12 races?

6) Are the teams running in the BEST BUY Triple Crown Sport Compact Series required to do the same at their local tracks to be entitled to the purse they earned in that mini-series?

When you answer all of these questions satisfactorily, I will have a clearer idea of what I am doing this season.

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Johnathan Schwemler a écrit:
Asking me questions about my plans for next season is just a way to avoid answering the real questions.

1) Are teams that are registered at Airborne Speedway required to participate in a minimum of 8 events at their local track to be eligible for a 6 race touring series (MASTERS) points fund purse? (You've answered, but right now there is still 4 different versions of this answer floating around)

2) Can a team win the MASTERS Championship based on points over 6 races, and not earn the full purse (race winnings and points fund) advertised? ($3900 to win 6 races by a part-time team, plus the $2000 for being the MASTERS Champion)

3) Isn't the whole idea of having the MASTERS Series to excite and entertain fans by providing the extra incentive of bonus money to teams?

4) If a rookie driver registered to ASE participates in ONLY the 6 MASTERS Series Races (3 at ASE) would they lose their eligibility to the 2013 ASE Rookie of the Year? (the previous rule was the participation in 5 races solely at ASE)

5) Why is it that to earn the points fund money from the 1/2 season, 6 race MASTERS Series that a team needs to participate in 91.6% of the full 12 race season at ASE, but to earn the points fund money for the 12 race season they are only required to participate in 80% or 9.6 of the 12 races?

6) Are the teams running in the BEST BUY Triple Crown Sport Compact Series required to do the same at their local tracks to be entitled to the purse they earned in that mini-series?

When you answer all of these questions satisfactorily, I will have a clearer idea of what I am doing this season.



Mon cher Jonathan,

Il y a eu trois meeting Sportsman depuis la fin de la dernière saison, et ce, à 2 St-Eustache et à 1 à Plattsburgh, dont deux en présence de Mike Perrotte de Airborne Speedway. De mémoire, je crois que ne vous êtes présenté à aucun.

Nous avons expliqué les deux championnats, ainsi que les modalité de ceux-ci.
Des documents explicatifs et très clairs ont été distribués aux pilotes présents et postés aux pilotes absents. Monsieur Perrotte a reçu copie de ces documents et les a distribués à ses pilotes le lendemain au meeting de Plattsburgh auquel j'ai moi-même participé en présence d'Howard Romanado.

Donc vos (?!) affirmations concernant que les pilotes de NY ignoraient les modalités sont complètement fausses.

Nous en concluons que les pilotes ont compris le système, ceux à qui j'ai parlé me l'ont confirmé.
Je vous rappelle qu'il y a 25 000$ dans les deux fonds de points combinés, en qu'en tant que payeurs de ce fond de points, nous présumons avoir le droit d'en fixer les modalités, et vous êtes libre de les accepter ou non.

En conséquences, si vous avez d'autres questions, il faudra vous présenter à mon bureau ou me les adresser par courriel.

Bonne journée à vous !

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Yves Ladouceur a écrit:
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Asking me questions about my plans for next season is just a way to avoid answering the real questions.

1) Are teams that are registered at Airborne Speedway required to participate in a minimum of 8 events at their local track to be eligible for a 6 race touring series (MASTERS) points fund purse? (You've answered, but right now there is still 4 different versions of this answer floating around)

2) Can a team win the MASTERS Championship based on points over 6 races, and not earn the full purse (race winnings and points fund) advertised? ($3900 to win 6 races by a part-time team, plus the $2000 for being the MASTERS Champion)

3) Isn't the whole idea of having the MASTERS Series to excite and entertain fans by providing the extra incentive of bonus money to teams?

4) If a rookie driver registered to ASE participates in ONLY the 6 MASTERS Series Races (3 at ASE) would they lose their eligibility to the 2013 ASE Rookie of the Year? (the previous rule was the participation in 5 races solely at ASE)

5) Why is it that to earn the points fund money from the 1/2 season, 6 race MASTERS Series that a team needs to participate in 91.6% of the full 12 race season at ASE, but to earn the points fund money for the 12 race season they are only required to participate in 80% or 9.6 of the 12 races?

6) Are the teams running in the BEST BUY Triple Crown Sport Compact Series required to do the same at their local tracks to be entitled to the purse they earned in that mini-series?

When you answer all of these questions satisfactorily, I will have a clearer idea of what I am doing this season.



Mon cher Jonathan,

Il y a eu trois meeting Sportsman depuis la fin de la dernière saison, et ce, à 2 St-Eustache et à 1 à Plattsburgh, dont deux en présence de Mike Perrotte de Airborne Speedway. De mémoire, je crois que ne vous êtes présenté à aucun.

Nous avons expliqué les deux championnats, ainsi que les modalité de ceux-ci.
Des documents explicatifs et très clairs ont été distribués aux pilotes présents et postés aux pilotes absents. Monsieur Perrotte a reçu copie de ces documents et les a distribués à ses pilotes le lendemain au meeting de Plattsburgh auquel j'ai moi-même participé en présence d'Howard Romanado.

Donc vos (?!) affirmations concernant que les pilotes de NY ignoraient les modalités sont complètement fausses.

Nous en concluons que les pilotes ont compris le système, ceux à qui j'ai parlé me l'ont confirmé.
Je vous rappelle qu'il y a 25 000$ dans les deux fonds de points combinés, en qu'en tant que payeurs de ce fond de points, nous présumons avoir le droit d'en fixer les modalités, et vous êtes libre de les accepter ou non.

En conséquences, si vous avez d'autres questions, il faudra vous présenter à mon bureau ou me les adresser par courriel.

Bonne journée à vous !



I was at the first of those meetings where you provided me with the document that reads $20,000 combined points fund, and two documents that conflict with one another. One that says that the purse for the Sportsmans this year is $100,000 and another that when you add up all the numbers you only get to $93,420.

The last time I wrote you an e-mail, and sent a letter to your office you never responded to me. The last time I phoned you, you cut the conversation off early and when I called back you hung up on me. I know that if I do not talk to you on this public forum that you are not only NOT going to respond, that you will poke fun of me to other drivers about the language my mother taught me.

Stories don't match up M. Ladouceur, and I'm just looking for answers. There are other people asking the same questions that you have yet to respond to.

I wear a uniform to work and carry a weapon in the face of an armed enemy because I believe in fair and equal treatment, along with that comes honesty and integrity. Ducking around the questions is not how a professional businessmen that we all need to trust in should be handling this situation.

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This was just forwarded to me, referring to a conversation yesterday.


Hi (removed name).

Alan just responded to my/your question in regards to be eligible for point money and title. It is true that you have to race a minimum of 8 races. I was not informed of this. It really is not an issue in my case because all of our regulars.

Anyway I hope that you come and race at Airborne whenever you can. Thanks for writing.

Mike P.



Again, M. Ladouceur with all due respect, I'm simply asking questions because there seems to be some mud in the water. If my earlier questions were answered maybe everyone could see clearly.

I attended the first meeting and did not understand that a team was required to race in 11 races to earn the MASTERS Points Fund payout until someone else explained it to me. I've had to show 3 more car owners at ASE today the same information, because they still did not understand. I talked with a representative of the track today on the phone, and they told me a completely different story.

By being the only one to stand up and ask questions does not make me a bad person, it means that I could use your help in understanding so please teach me. If you or anyone else don't like me over it, I'm fine with that too.

I'd appreciate if you answered the questions so that everyone could see, then everyone knows that what your telling me is the same as what you've told Mike Perrotte, the Airborne drivers/owners and the ANCA Sportsman drivers/owners.

BTW, I've been involved with racecars at 15 tracks ranging from BC to Ontario, and have yet to see a 6 race mini series require that you race 11 races in order to collect the points fund money. Actually, I've never seen a 6 race series that you were required to participate in 8 until I came to ASE.

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Avec les 3 courses à Platts comptent pour le championnat ASE :

Comment ça fonctionne pour les pneus ?
Comment ça fonctionne pour l'essence ?
Comment ça Fonctionne pour l'inspection technique ?
Comment ça fonctionne pour déclarer un bolide conforme ?

Même questions sur les visiteurs Américains lors de leur visite au Québec, eux qui parlent que...l'anglais !

De plus, soyez clair sur l'égalité des chances entre les 2 groupes SVP !
Les Américains ne SEMBLENT pas déclarer les mêmes modalités !

Pourquoi ne pas publier un ''remender'' sur le fonstionnement du MASTER ?
Une clarification s'impose ! Un ''remender'' approuvé par une signature de l'ASE et de ABS SVP !

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Bon, étant moi-meme moderateur,je me rend compte que certains intervenants (incluant moi-meme) ne respectent pas les regles du forum, mes propos/insinuations ainsi que les propos/insinnuations de certains intervenants vont trop loin.....avant que ca derape plus que ca, je me vois dans 'obligation d'effacer certains messages.



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M. Ladouceur,

The questions I have raised earlier are based on inconsistencies and I am simply looking forward to the future and searching for knowledge to base my decisions on.

How can the MASTER races at Airborne count against a driver's rookie status, when it doesn't count against the minimum 8 starts to be eligible for the points fund?

Can you win the MASTERS Championship without making 8 starts at ASE?

Is the money that is promised to the Champion returned to the track, or the top placing team that did complete the 8 races at ASE?

Thanks again for your time, and please feel free to answer with a simple "We'll discuss and get back to you." if the track management hasn't already come up with a plan incase these events take place.

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Johnathan Schwemler a écrit:
M. Ladouceur,

The questions I have raised earlier are based on inconsistencies and I am simply looking forward to the future and searching for knowledge to base my decisions on.

How can the MASTER races at Airborne count against a driver's rookie status, when it doesn't count against the minimum 8 starts to be eligible for the points fund?
Parce que ce sont les règles établies ces courses font partie du championnat ANCA
Can you win the MASTERS Championship without making 8 starts at ASE?
Encore une fois NON. Ce championnat MASTERS est une récompense pour nos pilotes ASSIDUS des 2 pistes (ST-EUSTACHE et AIRBORNE) Is the money that is promised to the Champion returned to the track, or the top placing team that did complete the 8 races at ASE?
L'argent du fond de point (5 000$) va aux 5 premiers pilotes ÉLIGIBLES. S'il y en a un qui n'a pas rempli les conditions, il est exclu et c'est le suivant qui prend sa place.
Thanks again for your time, and please feel free to answer with a simple "We'll discuss and get back to you." if the track management hasn't already come up with a plan incase these events take place.

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Yves Ladouceur a écrit:
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M. Ladouceur,

The questions I have raised earlier are based on inconsistencies and I am simply looking forward to the future and searching for knowledge to base my decisions on.

How can the MASTER races at Airborne count against a driver's rookie status, when it doesn't count against the minimum 8 starts to be eligible for the points fund?
Parce que ce sont les règles établies ces courses font partie du championnat ANCA
Can you win the MASTERS Championship without making 8 starts at ASE?
Encore une fois NON. Ce championnat MASTERS est une récompense pour nos pilotes ASSIDUS des 2 pistes (ST-EUSTACHE et AIRBORNE) Is the money that is promised to the Champion returned to the track, or the top placing team that did complete the 8 races at ASE?
L'argent du fond de point (5 000$) va aux 5 premiers pilotes ÉLIGIBLES. S'il y en a un qui n'a pas rempli les conditions, il est exclu et c'est le suivant qui prend sa place.
Thanks again for your time, and please feel free to answer with a simple "We'll discuss and get back to you." if the track management hasn't already come up with a plan incase these events take place.


Thanks for clearing that up.

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I sat down with M. Ladouceur after practice on Sunday and we went over some of the questions I had.

Johnathan Schwemler a écrit:
Asking me questions about my plans for next season is just a way to avoid answering the real questions.

1) Are teams that are registered at Airborne Speedway required to participate in a minimum of 8 events at their local track to be eligible for a 6 race touring series (MASTERS) points fund purse? (You've answered, but right now there is still 4 different versions of this answer floating around)
Yes

2) Can a team win the MASTERS Championship based on points over 6 races, and not earn the full purse (race winnings and points fund) advertised? ($3900 to win 6 races by a part-time team, plus the $2000 for being the MASTERS Champion)
No, only teams participating in the 8 races at ASE, plus the 3 MASTERS at Airborne will have a chance to win the MASTERS Championship and Points fund. Teams not making the required amount of appearances will be excluded from the MASTERS Championship


3) Isn't the whole idea of having the MASTERS Series to excite and entertain fans by providing the extra incentive of bonus money to teams?
No, the idea of the MASTERS Championship is to give a bonus to the regular competitors at ASE and Airborne.


4) If a rookie driver registered to ASE participates in ONLY the 6 MASTERS Series Races (3 at ASE) would they lose their eligibility to the 2013 ASE Rookie of the Year? (the previous rule was the participation in 5 races solely at ASE)
Yes, as per another thread in the ASE/ANCA Sportsman forum.


5) Why is it that to earn the points fund money from the 1/2 season, 6 race MASTERS Series that a team needs to participate in 91.6% of the full 12 race season at ASE, but to earn the points fund money for the 12 race season they are only required to participate in 80% or 9.6 of the 12 races?
To reward the regular competitors.


6) Are the teams running in the BEST BUY Triple Crown Sport Compact Series required to do the same at their local tracks to be entitled to the purse they earned in that mini-series?
We didn't discuss this question.


When you answer all of these questions satisfactorily, I will have a clearer idea of what I am doing this season.
He answered all of these questions satisfactorily, although some I may or may not agree with, he explained his reasons. Therefore, due to a lack of marketing partners, the preparation of a new car, and to maintain my rookie status, I have decided to NOT participate in the 2012 season as a DRIVER. I will be working on a couple of ASE and NCATS cars to improve their programs, sponsoring an ASE car, and I will continue improving as a driver by participating in some events in Ontario. I'm still currently working out a deal with a NASCAR Canadian Tire Series driver to drive my car in a late season race at ASE, but nothing is confirmed at this point.


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M. Ladouceur also corrected himself on the $25,000 purse after I showed him on the document he handed me during our meeting that it was only $20,000.

Sorry guys, maybe I should have kept him thinking he was paying $25k...

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Johnathan Schwemler a écrit:
M. Ladouceur also corrected himself on the $25,000 purse after I showed him on the document he handed me during our meeting that it was only $20,000.

Sorry guys, maybe I should have kept him thinking he was paying $25k...



C'est ça ! "only 20 000$"

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